Welcome to On the Couch, a new political podcast from Reaction and broadcaster and psychotherapist Lucy Beresford. In each episode, Lucy is joined by a special guest to take a deep dive into the relationships making the headlines in politics today and explore the psychology of so much in political life.

This week On the Couch, Lucy Beresford is joined by Baroness Pauline Neville-Jones, politician and former civil servant who served as Chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee from 1993 to 1994. They discuss diplomacy, intelligence and the history of trying to psychoanalyse leaders such as Putin or Saddam Hussein to determine their intentions and next moves. Baroness Neville-Jones also discusses what it is like being a woman in the civil service, then and now, and how female intuition and observation are under-estimated skills when working in intelligence.

Enjoyed this episode with Lucy Beresford and Baroness Neville-Jones? Listen to previous episodes of On the Couch here.