Mike Hulme is a Professor of Human Geography at the University of Cambridge. He is a world leading expert on climate change, national emergency and risk. In a wide-ranging conversation with Reaction’s Deputy Editor, Alastair Benn, he talks about the role of the state in managing the Coronavirus pandemic and why the project of re-socialising requires a political struggle. Alastair Benn: A large proportion of the Covid debate focuses on the compliance to the rules and the emotional commitment that creates compliance – what’s missing?