One of the more striking crime statistics is that burglary is down 90 per cent in England and Wales since the 1990s. That doesn’t reflect more upright behaviour. Nope, it’s just that villains are increasingly moving their operations online. Neil and Jonathan talk to author Geoff White about how Silicon Valley is helping the bad guys go digital by making it easier for them not only to con people and rob, but also to launder their digital winnings online.

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Presented by Jonathan Ford and Neil Collins, with Geoff White. Produced and edited by Nick Hilton for Podot, in association with Briefcase.News.